Introduction
Replacing a bath waste and trap seems simple until you’re back a week later chasing smells, dribbles, or a slow drain. The usual culprits? Wrong trap choice, poor fall on the run, rushed sealing, and no access for future maintenance. Here’s a practical, field-tested guide to do it once and do it right. You’ll see what to check before you start, how to pick the right components, how to set fall and venting to avoid self‑siphonage, the right way to seal and test, and how to hand over cleanly. We’ll also cover a quick, professional way to scope and send a signable proposal using voice capture so you don’t lose the evening to admin.
Table of Contents
Key Takeaways
- Bath traps in the UK should provide a 50 mm water seal under Approved Document H; pick components that maintain that seal in real use.
- A 40 mm waste with a fall around 1:40 to 1:80 drains reliably; flatter than about 1:110 commonly invites blockages and self‑siphonage.
- Most sanitary silicones skin in 10–20 minutes and need roughly 24 hours to fully cure; water test gently before full use.
- Many contractors find a straightforward swap takes 60–90 minutes, but access, corrosion, and rework of falls can extend this to half a day.
Survey and Plan
The Problem
Many callbacks start with hidden constraints: no access to the trap, warped tubs, cracked overflow gaskets, or low outlet heights that force poor trap geometry. It’s common for the existing fall to be too flat, especially on long runs across joists.
The Solution
- Check access and plan an access panel if none exists. Many installers allow a minimum 300 by 300 mm as a practical service opening.
- Confirm waste size and tub outlet. Bath waste holes are commonly around 38–40 mm with a 1 1/2 inch waste fitting; pipework is typically 40 mm in the UK.
- Inspect the overflow route and gasket condition; replace if brittle.
- Note the existing branch fall and length; plan for 1:40 to 1:80 if you can, avoiding flatter than about 1:110.
- Identify trap type and vents; look for signs of self‑siphonage (gurgling, odours).
Example
You pull the bath panel and find no access hatch and a flat 40 mm run pinned tight to joists. You propose: new 300 by 300 mm access, solvent weld rerun at about 1:60, and an anti‑siphon P‑trap to protect the 50 mm seal.
Remove, Clean and Prepare
The Problem
Rushing removal leaves old sealant, grit, and deformed fibre washers that prevent a consistent seal. Over‑tightening cracked wastes are another common cause of dribbles.
The Solution
- Isolate and protect: shut water as needed, lay dust sheets and tub protection.
- Disassemble carefully; photograph the old stack order for reference.
- Scrape off all old silicone and debris from the tub waste hole; degrease both faces.
- Inspect the tub hole for chips or bowing; minor bowing may need a thicker sealing ring or a backing plate.
- Dry‑fit and check alignment before final sealing.
Example
A steel bath shows a slight dish around the waste. You swap the stock flat washer for a moulded conical seal and add a stainless backing plate to spread the load, avoiding the need to over‑torque the waste nut.
Fit the Right Waste and Trap
The Problem
Wrong trap, wrong seal depth, or no protection against self‑siphonage leads to smells and slow drains. Baths need a reliable 50 mm seal under UK guidance (Approved Document H).
The Solution
- Choose a trap that maintains a 50 mm seal and suits the clearance: standard P‑trap where space allows; shallow P where outlet height is tight; anti‑siphon types if the branch is long or shares with high‑flow fixtures.
- Consider waterless valves in problem voids where odour control and freeze risk are issues, following manufacturer guidance and local acceptance.
- Prefer solvent‑weld joints for concealed sections; use quality compression where future disassembly is likely.
Trap Options Compared
| Trap Option | When To Use | Seal Depth | Notes |
|---|
| Standard P‑Trap | Normal space, short branch | 50 mm | Reliable, good flow; simplest choice when it fits |
| Shallow P‑Trap | Low outlet / tight voids | About 38–50 mm | Use with care; protect against self‑siphonage |
| Anti‑Siphon P‑Trap | Long runs / shared branches | 50 mm | Built‑in AAV reduces gurgle and odours |
| Waterless Valve | Intermittent use / smell issues | N/A (membrane) |
Example
1960s bath with a low waste outlet over a deep joist bay. A shallow P‑trap plus an integrated anti‑siphon vent keeps effective seal depth close to 50 mm and stops the gurgle on full‑bore discharge.
Pipework Falls and Venting
The Problem
Flat or over‑steep runs cause standing water, airlocks, noise, and self‑siphonage. Undersized vents and crowded branches compound the issue.
The Solution
- Aim for a consistent fall around 1:40 to 1:80 on 40 mm pipework. Avoid flatter than about 1:110, which commonly leads to deposits.
- Keep runs straight with minimal fittings; long swept bends beat tight elbows for flow.
- Where branch length and other fixtures risk self‑siphonage, use an anti‑siphon trap or a correctly sited air admittance valve (AAV) per local rules.
- Support pipework at sensible intervals so the fall doesn’t relax over time.
Example
Existing run crossed three joists with humps and dips. You re‑route in the joist zone with notches compliant to structural rules and clip every 0.6–0.8 m to hold about 1:60 fall. Result: full tub drains clean in one go with no gurgle.
Seal, Test and Handover
The Problem
Leaks at the waste flange, overflow gasket, or compression rings show up after you’ve left. Many contractors report that rushing the sealant stage is the number one cause of revisit.
The Solution
- Use sanitary‑grade silicone; most skin in 10–20 minutes and require roughly 24 hours to fully cure. Follow the specific product data.
- Apply a thin, even bead under the waste flange and around the overflow face. Don’t over‑tighten; let the gasket do its job.
- Tissue test every joint under a bright light while draining. Then re‑test when the sealant has skinned to confirm no weeps.
- Fill the tub to just below the overflow, test the overflow path, then full drain. Check for movement at the trap under dynamic flow.
- Provide an access hatch and leave a clean site with a short care note.
Example
You note a faint weep at the overflow nut only under high flow. A quarter‑turn back, reseat, and a fresh bead cures it. You leave a simple note: “Avoid full‑bore baths for 24 hours while silicone cures.”
Fast, Clear Proposals for Small Works
The Problem
Small plumbing jobs often burn more time in admin than in the repair. Many contractors find the back‑and‑forth on scope and price can delay approval by days.
The Solution
- On site, dictate the scope, risks, and options into your phone, snapping 2–3 photos of access and existing falls. Use a tool that turns that into a clean proposal quickly.
- With Donizo, you can speak the details (plus add text and photos) and generate a professional proposal fast. Send a branded PDF by email, let the client review in the portal, and capture a legally binding e‑signature the same day. When the client accepts, convert to an invoice in one click and track payment status on paid plans.
- Spell out assumptions: access panel size, pipework rerun to about 1:60 fall, anti‑siphon trap if required, and silicone cure time.
Example
After a 15‑minute survey, you record: “Replace 1 1/2 inch bath waste, install anti‑siphon P‑trap, rerun 40 mm branch at approx. 1:60, add 300 by 300 mm access hatch, sanitary silicone with 24‑hour cure.” You attach two photos of the current trap and the flat branch. Proposal goes out before you leave; the client e‑signs that evening.
Frequently Asked Questions
What Trap Seal Depth Do I Need on a Bath?
For UK residential baths, aim for a 50 mm water seal as set out in Approved Document H. This helps prevent odours and reduces the chance of self‑siphonage. Shallow traps can be used where space is tight, but protect the seal with anti‑siphon features.
Should I Use Solvent‑Weld or Compression Fittings?
Use solvent‑weld on concealed runs for robustness and leak resistance. Use quality compression fittings where future disassembly may be needed or where access is guaranteed. Many contractors use a hybrid: solvent‑weld on the run, compression at the trap for serviceability.
What Fall Should I Set on 40 mm Bath Waste Pipe?
In general, a fall around 1:40 to 1:80 works well. Avoid flatter than about 1:110, which commonly leads to standing water and deposits. Keep the fall consistent and support the pipe to prevent sagging.
Do I Need an Access Panel for the Trap?
Yes—provide reasonable access for inspection and maintenance. Many installers allow a minimum 300 by 300 mm opening where practical. It saves future damage if a gasket or joint ever needs attention.
How Long Before the Bath Can Be Used Normally?
Most sanitary silicones skin in 10–20 minutes but require roughly 24 hours to fully cure. Advise light use or avoid full‑bore drains until cured. Always check the product’s instructions.
Conclusion
Bath waste and trap replacements are straightforward when you respect the basics: a reliable 50 mm seal, the right trap for the geometry, a consistent fall on 40 mm pipework, careful sealing, and a proper test. Do that, add an access hatch, and callbacks drop away. For the admin, speak your findings, add a couple of photos, and let Donizo turn it into a professional, signable proposal in minutes. Clients e‑sign, and you can convert to an invoice without re‑typing—more time on the tools, less time at a keyboard.